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		<title>Hector at 00:01, 22 June 2017</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l7&quot; &gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Description of the case ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Description of the case ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Saba Capital Management is a hedge fund which was holding at least USD 31m corporate bonds issued by McClatchy Co. The bonds were marked to market using broker prices, with brokers announcing quoting the bonds at 50/60. But when sold to face a large redemption by the Canadian pension fund, the position ended up being valued at 30. The pension fund sued&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://data.bloomberglp.com/assets/sites/2/Saba-mismarking-complaint-25sep15.pdf&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;?utm_medium=email&amp;amp;utm_source=newsletter&amp;amp;utm_term=170323&amp;amp;utm_campaign=moneystuff&lt;/del&gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, but lost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Saba Capital Management is a hedge fund which was holding at least USD 31m corporate bonds issued by McClatchy Co. The bonds were marked to market using broker prices, with brokers announcing quoting the bonds at 50/60. But when sold to face a large redemption by the Canadian pension fund, the position ended up being valued at 30. The pension fund sued&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[&lt;/ins&gt;https://data.bloomberglp.com/assets/sites/2/Saba-mismarking-complaint-25sep15.pdf &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Bloomberg, ''Complaint''] &lt;/ins&gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, but lost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Take-aways ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Take-aways ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Hector at 23:57, 21 June 2017</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l10&quot; &gt;Line 10:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Take-aways ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Take-aways ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Broker prices must be &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;challenge&lt;/del&gt;. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Broker prices must be &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;challenged&lt;/ins&gt;. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The Activity and liquidity of any market must be assessed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The Activity and liquidity of any market must be assessed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* IFRS 13 makes poor choices, as a non-tradable broker quote will be better rated than a composite price, which takes into account the liquidity of the market.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* IFRS 13 makes poor choices, as a non-tradable broker quote will be better rated than a composite price, which takes into account the liquidity of the market.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Hector: Created page with &quot;== Firm Involved == * Saba Capital Management * Public Sector Pension Investment Board of Canada  == Year of the event == 2017  == Description of the case == Saba Capital Mana...&quot;</title>
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				<updated>2017-06-21T23:51:37Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;== Firm Involved == * Saba Capital Management * Public Sector Pension Investment Board of Canada  == Year of the event == 2017  == Description of the case == Saba Capital Mana...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Firm Involved ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Saba Capital Management&lt;br /&gt;
* Public Sector Pension Investment Board of Canada&lt;br /&gt;
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== Year of the event ==&lt;br /&gt;
2017&lt;br /&gt;
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== Description of the case ==&lt;br /&gt;
Saba Capital Management is a hedge fund which was holding at least USD 31m corporate bonds issued by McClatchy Co. The bonds were marked to market using broker prices, with brokers announcing quoting the bonds at 50/60. But when sold to face a large redemption by the Canadian pension fund, the position ended up being valued at 30. The pension fund sued&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://data.bloomberglp.com/assets/sites/2/Saba-mismarking-complaint-25sep15.pdf?utm_medium=email&amp;amp;utm_source=newsletter&amp;amp;utm_term=170323&amp;amp;utm_campaign=moneystuff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, but lost.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Take-aways ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Broker prices must be challenge. &lt;br /&gt;
* The Activity and liquidity of any market must be assessed.&lt;br /&gt;
* IFRS 13 makes poor choices, as a non-tradable broker quote will be better rated than a composite price, which takes into account the liquidity of the market.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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